Zoé de Kerangat and Francisco Ferrándiz. Memory and History – Podcast

Interview to Zoé de Kerangat and Francisco Ferrándiz.

In our latest episode, we delve into a topic that continues to resonate today: the exhumations of victims of the Spanish Civil War and the coup d’état. From their beginnings in clandestine efforts, through their development during the transition to democracy, and up to the present as a social movement seeking Transitional Justice and Reparations through the laws on Historical and Democratic Memory, exhumations remain a fundamental part of improving the democratic quality of our state.

Starting in the postwar period—legally for the victims considered “victors” and clandestinely for others—exhumations have evolved over the years. During the transition to democracy, they were conducted with limited resources and rudimentary methods to recover the remains of loved ones. With the emergence of the movement to recover historical memory, they gained social resonance as a democratic culture issue to be resolved, culminating in the approval of specific laws such as those of 2007 and the current legislation.

In this episode, we are privileged to host two of the most prominent researchers on this subject: Zoé de Kerangat and Francisco Ferrándiz. Together, we will analyze the development, methodology, sociopolitical and academic impact, and the importance of exhumations for Transitional Justice and Reparations—not only in the context of the Spanish Civil War and Franco’s dictatorship but also in other settings.

Zoé de Kerangat holds a PhD in Contemporary History (UAM/CSIC, 2020), awarded with distinction for her doctoral thesis. She is currently a Lecturer (PDI) in the Department of Contemporary History at the UNED. Her research falls within memory studies and focuses on the exhumation of victims of Francoist repression, particularly the recovery of remains in the 1970s and 1980s in Spain. She has been a researcher at the Institute of Language, Literature, and Anthropology (CCHS-CSIC), the Autonomous University of Madrid, and the Department of Art History at the UNED. Additionally, she conducted a research stay at the Center for Social Research (IDES/CONICET) in Buenos Aires, Argentina. She is part of the research project “NECROPOL: Beyond Sub-Burial—From the Forensic Turn to Necropolitics in the Exhumations of Civil War Mass Graves.” Her latest book, Remover cielo y tierra: Las exhumaciones de víctimas del franquismo en los años 70 y 80, was published in 2023.

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Francisco Ferrándiz. Cadena SER. 27/09/2021

Entrevista a Francisco Ferrándiz en el programa Hoy por Hoy Madrid.

“Programme with the social anthropologist and advisor to the Ministry of the Presidency for the resignification of the Valley.”

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Francisco Ferrándiz. Cadena SER. 23/10/2021

Interview with Francisco Ferrándiz on the radio programme Hoy por Hoy Madrid.

“We wanted to know what is being done to give new meaning to this monument and give it a democratic narrative. Francisco Ferrándiz is a social anthropologist specialising in historical memory who is currently advising the Ministry on this task. The key, he told us, lies in changing the legal status by means of a Royal Decree Law, provided for in the Law of Democratic Memory currently being processed in Congress. If this goes ahead, the next step will be to exhume the remains of José Antonio Primo de Rivera”.

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Francisco Ferrándiz. Carne Cruda. 12/11/2021

Interview with Francisco Ferrándiz on the radio program Carne Cruda.

“To find out about the work being done by the institutions, we spoke to Francisco Ferrándiz, anthropologist at the CSIC and now advisor to the Secretaría para la Memoria Democrática”.

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Francisco Ferrándiz. Carne Cruda. 30/10/2019

Interview with Francisco Ferrándiz on the radio program Carne Cruda.

Programme on forgetting with the social anthropologist Francisco Ferrándiz, who has actively participated in many of the exhumations since 2000. For him, the opening of graves constitutes a mechanism for confronting the traumatic past of undeniable transcendence.

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What is the Valley of the Fallen? 24/10/2019

What is the Valley of the Fallen? InfoK programme, a children’s channel on Televisión de Cataluña (TV3), prepared with the help of Queralt Solé, Professor of History at the University of Barcelona.

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Francisco Ferrándiz. Las mañanas de RNE. 24/09/2019

Interview to Francisco Ferrándiz in the program Las mañanas de RNE with Íñigo Alfonso.

The Supreme Court pronounces on the exhumation of Franco’s remains. A long process of political decisions, corrections, appeals in the courts ends … and we will see who gives the right justice: the government or the Franco family.

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Marije Hristova and Johanna Vollmeyer. RNE, Gente Despierta. 11/07/2019

Interview with Marije Hristova and Johanna Vollmeyer in the program Gente Despierta of RNE.

The programme deals with historical memory, following the celebration in Madrid of the third annual conference of the Memory Studies Association.

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Francisco Ferrándiz. SER, Punto de fuga. 29/06/2019

Interview with Francisco Ferrándiz in the program Punto de fuga in Cadena SER.

On the 80th anniversary of the end of the Spanish Civil War, the Memory Congress reflects on the relationship between memory and the fingerprint or climate change. In this sense, there are experts who already refer to nostalgia for lost landscapes or other consequences of changes in the environment as ‘climatic trauma’.

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Marije Hristova. RNE, por tres razones. 28/06/2019

Interview with Marije Hristova in the program Por tres razones of RNE.

The macro Congress held at the Complutense University ends in Madrid, which has addressed one of the pillars of humanity, namely: memory, which has stolen wars and conflicts; climate; history; how it is taught; how it is not even thought.

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